Try asking somebody if they know about the DDWFTTW cart

 Odds are they do not.  And if you try and explain it, they will most likely be annoyed, wonder about your reasons, your sanity, and quite likely ask "why are you telling me this?"

While anyone who got involved in the online argument back in 2008, or 2009, knows well the years long discussions, fights and the vain attempts of spork to get anyone to make a bet, anyone who was not involved probably knows exactly nothing about it.

And they won't care.  Not even a little.

When it comes to the online drama and serious online fighting, they will care even less.

The never ending thread is active once more

Like nearly everyone that's ever showed up here to explain to us what's really happening, there's ZERO chance of helping him

I gave up on this long ago

If you don't know about Directly downwind, faster than the wind 

Just go here

The eternal DDWFTTW thread on TalkRational

Current page on TalkRational version 3

TR 1 (not working)

TR 2

Redundant blog link

Videos

All the videos using a circular treadmill 

Rick explains  DDWFTTW

Why this blog?

 The DDWFTTW argument has started up again, in earnest.  This blog will be a place to save links and video and data and such, all in one post.  

Like a public set of bookmarks, with little commentary.

Updated Jan 17 2022

Too much effort for so little reward